ext_13058 ([identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] maggie2 2009-01-25 04:29 am (UTC)

Re: Angel...-and Spike

Spike and Angel frustrate me a bit - with fans, because a lot of fans want them to be "GOOD" without flaws. But for me, the flaws make them human and interesting. We are all capable of killing someone. We all want to on occassion. We choose not to. It is not our emotions or desires that matter, it is how we act upon them. What we choose to do. It's our actions we have to live with ultimately. And we find ways of doing that. Spike and Angel have done horrendous things. They still are capable of it. A soul doesn't change that.

Angelus said that to Faith in Orpheus and to Angel. He said - I'm not going away. I'm part of you. I am you. And it's true. Even here. But if you want the writer's to come out and tell you that directly? I'm sorry, they won't. Because then it wouldn't be ambigious and the fan may not continue reading.

I'm not sure it matters what the writer tells you. Sometimes a writer will subconsicously communicate something, he or she isn't aware of. We have no control what others will or won't see in our art. But that is part of the fun of it.

The ending of the comic is eerie. Especially if you keep in mind what happened in Harm's way, and what is happening with Gunn - who desperately wants to just die. Overwhelmed now with guilt for what he's done. It still happened. Just because there was a reset, doesn't mean it didn't happen, that they didn't experience it. Both Illyria and Spike are reeling from their memories of what happened.

As for mistrust? Ah. I have that problem with both the Buffy S8 and the Angel comics. I'm also highly annoyed that there aren't going to be more Spike comics - because they probably undersold. Lynch isn't writing any more any time soon. Because I'm still invested in the character and wanted more of him. I do not trust Whedon to insert him in Buffy or do what I really would like to see - a Drusilla arc. I think there's a lot he could do with Spike and Dru, a lot of territory to explore. But I doubt I'll get it. Instead I get characters in Buffy S8 - that I would have been happy never to have seen again - Warren, Dracula, Amy, Harmony, Andrew...to name a few. And he kills off or briefly discusses characters that I miss - such as Ethan.

I think I know what Whedon is planning on Buffy or his end-game. He wants to tell the tale of how Buffy closed the door on the demons. How she changed the verse for good or ill. Never been sure what he planned on doing with Angel and Spike in regards to it. There's more than one way to go.

On Angel comics - I mistrust the writers there as well. Lynch at least seemed to love all of them. Kelley Armstrong worries me. She's introducing some new characters - and I think we have more than enough already, we don't need more. I can't tell what she thinks of the characters from her interviews. But as I said before, if I don't like it? I'll stop buying it.

Wish I could allay your fears on that front, but I share them myself. Just as I share your frustration with Lorne's arc - I don't think it was handled very well - but Lynch has admitted that he had one too many characters to play with and got a bit lost at times.

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