No worries about motive/motif -- your English is 10,000 times better than my German.
To the subject at hand: I do not mean -- in any way -- to say that arguments that season 8 could be done better are out of bounds. People have a lot of problems with the comics, and it's completely fair to articulate them. It is this one, particular form of argument that triggers my "that's unfair" button.
Based on the wiki summary and what I've gleaned from these conversations it sounds like Joss is the anti-Moore. But I haven't read Promethea so I can't really comment. What I can say is that even when they are congruent you have to say that Joss *wanted* to achieve the effect Moore achieved and failed. And since I think Joss is telling a different story, I fail to see why we should assume he's trying to achieve an effect which he doesn't come even close to realizing. See Gabs' comment below for another pass at articulating the complaint. My own effort to hit the point: If you assume that Joss is trying to do X, and see that he's doing A Very Bad Job at X, it's easier to challenge the assumption that he's trying to do X than to conclude that his writing just fails on this point. If I see cheesy cartoons, I'm pretty sure the creators aren't going for transcendent and magical. I think the burden is on you all to explain why Joss would want to be going for transcendent and magical, and then how a generally competent (if often imperfect) writer would pretty much do the exact opposite of transcendent and magical. Aycheb's account just sounds much more true to the facts than the one I'm hearing from the promethea >> season 8 folks.
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To the subject at hand: I do not mean -- in any way -- to say that arguments that season 8 could be done better are out of bounds. People have a lot of problems with the comics, and it's completely fair to articulate them. It is this one, particular form of argument that triggers my "that's unfair" button.
Based on the wiki summary and what I've gleaned from these conversations it sounds like Joss is the anti-Moore. But I haven't read Promethea so I can't really comment. What I can say is that even when they are congruent you have to say that Joss *wanted* to achieve the effect Moore achieved and failed. And since I think Joss is telling a different story, I fail to see why we should assume he's trying to achieve an effect which he doesn't come even close to realizing. See Gabs' comment below for another pass at articulating the complaint. My own effort to hit the point: If you assume that Joss is trying to do X, and see that he's doing A Very Bad Job at X, it's easier to challenge the assumption that he's trying to do X than to conclude that his writing just fails on this point. If I see cheesy cartoons, I'm pretty sure the creators aren't going for transcendent and magical. I think the burden is on you all to explain why Joss would want to be going for transcendent and magical, and then how a generally competent (if often imperfect) writer would pretty much do the exact opposite of transcendent and magical. Aycheb's account just sounds much more true to the facts than the one I'm hearing from the promethea >> season 8 folks.