ext_15387 ([identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] maggie2 2010-08-29 10:48 pm (UTC)

Damn, what a missed opportunity in Forever! She didn't have sex with him and she totally should've hit that while overlooking her mother's grave. I mean, she was said and full of despair and wanted to get away from all her responsibilities. Why wouldn't she frak his brains out?

As for Chosen, I think you're getting your wires crossed. People say Angel was OOC, not Buffy.

Again, the difference between how Buffy acts in Forever and how Buffy acts in Twilight continue to reinforce the point. Buffy's emotional state does not immediately jump to spacefrakking, not even when she's feeling the most intense grief and burden of responsibility.

Buffy is perfectly in character in Chosen. Angel punches Caleb, shows up to help her and she says hello with a kiss. Now instead imagine that Caleb pulls off his fleshmask to reveal Angel underneath--then cue Buffy kissing him with the swooning and the basking. Still in character? I sure hope you don't think that's still the same.

What's baffling to me about your argument is you think that Buffy and Angel merely being in the same room together must lead to Buffy wanting to kiss or have sex with Angel. Huh? Not even want it, but that it's inevitable. In all appearances post-Season 3, whenever Buffy and Angel have reunited it's only immediately (note the emphasis on time) gone to kissing when Buffy has no reason to be angry with Angel and that only happened in Chosen. Forever took a long time to get to the point where Buffy was kissing Angel desperately (how long did they stand silently at the grave just holding hands? How long before Buffy could even work up the will to speak?). IWRY began with Buffy so angry with Angel that they didn't kiss till midway through the episode when he appears miraculously in the sunlight. Sanctuary was fighting. The Yoko Factor was about making peace and not romance. I imagine in the S6/S3 offscreen reunion they kissed, but again it's a miraculous reunion that has no reason for them to be angry with each other.

On the occasions that Buffy is angry with Angel, it doesn't immediately result in kissing (much less balls-to-the-wall spacefrakking). The immediate kissing only happens when they meet in harmony and Angel is there to help her. Buffy was shocked when Angel hit her in the face in Sanctuary. So shocked that she doubted how much he still cared for her. But now Angel can spend months on end hurting her and pushing an agenda that requires Slayers die and she's just okay and wants to make kissey faces?

I really don't understand the Buffy you're talking about. Buffy doesn't immediately dive into kissing Angel no matter what and to say one should read #33/34 and find it all perfectly in order runs counter to what was shown in the show. When Buffy encounters Angel's darkness, she freaks out (see Lie To Me, see Enemies) and runs away from him. She just got hit with a mack truck of Angel darkness in #33/34--behavioral patterns show she should've shut down, felt hurt and betrayed by him and questioned if he still loved her or still had his soul.

She doesn't do the above--all are perfectly natural and expected reactions for her based on how she deals emotionally. This is why people are saying she's not acting in character; and since she's not in character, people are wondering if it's bad writing (Meltzer's execution of Joss' idea) or if there's a textual reason for why she's acting abnormally (glow and the influence of the Universe).


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