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maggie2 ([personal profile] maggie2) wrote2009-03-20 10:21 pm

Joss and his slow beginnings, part II

And tonight we learn, *finally*, that Dollhouse really *is* a Whedon show.   The whole Whedon package.  Plot twists, layers, challenging the audience's expectations, and raising hard questions about just about everything. 

I still have no idea why it took five episodes of some remarkably dull televsion to get here.  But whatever.  We have ourselves a show.
 

hous

[identity profile] 2maggie2.livejournal.com 2009-03-21 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh -- good parallel. There are just heaps of things to say about this episode -- unlike the first five where you had to get out a big magnifying glass and do some squinting to find interesting things to say.

I LOVED the interviews. The other thing that was fabulous in every way possible was the Paul/internet mogul conversation, and the way it all played off the last scene. I just loved how it stirred the pot and forces us to ask hard questions about ourselves. (I have a particular animus to shows that play to our sense of moral superiority. LOOK! Exploitation!! BAD! Am so very happy to see that as usual Joss is taking those audience predilections and yanking on them very hard.)

Re: hous

[identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com 2009-03-22 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
H_____ Of Unusual Size? *is slightly confused but not altogether sober*

The other thing that was fabulous in every way possible was the Paul/internet mogul conversation, and the way it all played off the last scene.

Oh, hell yes. Especially since it was pre-undercut with Paul's colleague claiming he'd gladly pay to sleep with Caroline - and these are supposed to be the good guys?

I have a particular animus to shows that play to our sense of moral superiority. LOOK! Exploitation!! BAD! Am so very happy to see that as usual Joss is taking those audience predilections and yanking on them very hard.

Do you follow Big Love? So far, even given this episode, I'd say it's been doing what Joss thinks he's doing for the last three years... a lot more subtly, too.

Re: hous

[identity profile] 2maggie2.livejournal.com 2009-03-22 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
It took me forever to figure out what you were talking about! I have no idea where that heading came from. My computer is weird and sometimes skips me to other parts of the page without my noticing it. I wonder what I was trying to say when my 'hous' got morphed to the header...

I don't know Big Love. What is it?

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[identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com 2009-03-22 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know Big Love. What is it?

It's an HBO series currently wrapping up its third season, starring Bill Paxton, Chloe Sevigny, Harry Dean Stanton, and a bunch of others. It's... kind of difficult to sum it up and make it sound as awesome as it is, but it's essentially a drama series about a mormon family in Utah. A polygamous family, one guy and his three wives, just trying to live a normal life in modern-day USA with the man bringing home the money and the wives serving him. And apart from being a rather excellent drama, it's also one of the subtlest and creepiest examinations of power structures, patriarchy, free will and all that jazz I've ever seen on TV; every episode basically makes me need to take a shower. And they're constantly playing off the audience's preconceptions, our wish to be tolerant towards others while at the same time telling ourselves that they're completely different and we're not anything like that...

Re: hous

[identity profile] 2maggie2.livejournal.com 2009-03-24 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the rec! It's added to my to-do list.