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maggie2 ([personal profile] maggie2) wrote2010-08-28 06:37 pm

8.36: The Preview Pages


So with four days left to go before #36 finally comes out, I figure I'd waste some time pondering the preview pages.  They came out on a pretty crummy day, so I was grumpy when I first read them.  Random thoughts below the cut.

1.  So this is Angel from the future, or at least from 'a' future -- one where 'we' lost the war.  The war in question was in LA, but that may or may not be a purely local deal.  At the end of the preview we find out that future!Angel has some issues with the cheerleader.

The time travel angle has been in play all season long -- at least since #10 when Buffy talked about changing things if she was in a time loop.  Time travel gives me a headache, and I can only hope this is written in a way that doesn't boil down to some "the characters get an infinite number of chances to make things right so nothing really matters" sort of a deal.  The drama of life is that we only get one shot at it (says the woman who wishes she could have a do-over on a daily basis).  

2.  I love that Angel gets smashed by the O.  More call backs to season 2.

3.  DOG shows up.  His first line is "I know I'm a dog.  What a world, right?".  Reminds me of Spike in School Hard talking to Angel about what a world it is where people buy all that Anne Rice stuff.   There are a few other places where DOG sounds Spike-ish.  Fortunately there are places where DOG sounds not at all like Spike.

4. So the world's back the way it was supposed to be.  Fortunatley this is DOG speaking which means we don't necessarily have to assume that we really are playing the "reset and redo as many times as it takes to get it right" game.  The whole idea reminds me of fanfic, much of which is about resetting the game and getting it right.  Which is a perfectly fine and enjoyable game to play -- in fanfic.

5.  Angel pushes the O back into place.  Superpowers already in place then. 

6.  Another joke about balls!  Probably just the usual joke about why dogs lick themselves.  But it'd be cool if DOG turns out to be channeling Saga Vasuki -- a female type would probably be very entertained by the situation.

7.  Mention of Wesley.  Along with Angel's reaction to mention of Buffy makes me think that future!Angel isn't from so very far in (his) future.  The loss of the war rankles, and doesn't seem to be a dim memory.

8.  Angel is twitchy about "chosen".  Immediate reference is that he's twitchy about Buffy, which raises the possiblity that she had something to do with the war that was lost.   DOG asks what they're going to do about that, which Angel takes to be a threatening remark about Buffy.  I'd love it if the subtext here is that Angel is twitchy about who Buffy chose in Chosen, and that's what he ought to do something about.  Probably wishful thinking, since honestly having the first pages be about Angel was disappointing to my Spike-centric self.

9.  DOG is waiting for Angel to feel it.   Could mean Angel's superpowers -- maybe Angel didn't notice he had them when he pushed the O back up.  But this line resonates with FDW waiting for Buffy to feel it -- the weight of her failure.  In this case, Angel could be asked to feel something of how this world has changed.  Dunno.  It's pretty open ended.

There are two possible shoutouts to LOST: DOG looks like Vicent; there's an airplane about to crash.  Certainly the preview reminded me of the un-joy of watching LOST where questions piled up faster than answers were granted.  It's the last arc!  But we knew there had to be some big back story on Angel.  A war weary Angel who has lost everything makes some of Twangel easier to understand.  The cynicism about the inevitable deaths of mortals.  The lack of concern about seeing a world lost (since he's in a world that just got reconstituted after having already been lost).  

My big wish is that DOG be related to Saga Vasuki and/or Willow.  That's a plot line that needs to be joined.  Angel listening to chaos means that the story isn't necessarily selling Angel as the poor hero who just had to become Twilgiht to save the world.  And who knows, maybe they plucked the version of Angel who'd been through the crushing defeat because they knew that was the version that would most easily be their patsy?  Could work.  But time travel and alternative universes need to be employed with care.  Makes me nervous, in a grumpy sort of a way. 

[identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com 2010-08-29 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
(And yes, I think the idea of "Glowhypnol" is mostly a fanwank by people who can't bear to imagine Buffy having sex with Angel any other way. ;-)

As a person who's shipped B/A, who actually likes Angel (when he's not being a tool, then I'll call him a tool) and who has posted ad nauseum way more reason for why Buffy not reaming Angel after coming out of the sexphase...

Yeah, way off base and completely dismissive of your opposition's argument. It's not an accurate summary--you've completely misread it. Which makes sense of why we keep disagreeing if this is what you're reading. :D

You're wrong on the internet.
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[identity profile] stormwreath.livejournal.com 2010-08-29 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
You're wrong on the internet.

It happens sometimes. :-)

Further up the thread two different people decided that the only reason I would try to justify Buffy's actions would be if I were a Bangel shipper. They were joking, just as I was joking here (hence the winking smiley). I know there are arguments for why Buffy shouldn't have been so quick to trust Angel, and I've been trying here to provide counter-arguments for why it was in character for her anyway.

But there's also lots of people who mostly just snark at the notion that Buffy would have sex with Angel at all, and this was counter-snakrk aimed at that idea. It wasn't directed at you and if you were offended by it, I apologise. If you weren't offended but just think I'm totally wrong, well then, fair enough. :-)




I said "mostly" because to be honest, I don't often see people making arguments; just dismissive comments and snark. There are exceptions - you're one of them - but my comment wasn't about them. Which is why I added the qualifier "mostly" in the first place.

And I don't think my comment was any more dismissive than Maggie's joke that the only reason I would defend Buffy's action was because I was a Bangel shipper